let's talk about what's going to be the number one topic in politics and in washington and it's going to affect everybody in this country who pays taxes because it's going to cost each family about $2,000. 22 days 'til we hit the fiscal cliff and some promising news, i think, is when we found out the speaker and president actually met yesterday to talk to each other and we don't know really what happened. we do know if you point to senator corker and coburn and now congressman cole, there seems to be a movement on the republican side. like it or not, to move up the rates on higher brackets from 35 to 39. >> gretchen: only if we get something in return. the way i'm reading this, some are saying maybe it is time for us, we don't like it, but good faith effort, we will agree to raise taxes, but only if the president and his team then agrees to cut back on entitlement spending specifically. >> steve: and while neither side yesterday released any details of what the speaker and the president did talk about yesterday, perhaps when the president goes to michigan later today and does have a c